Why Dance Matters podcast
A dance podcast presented by the RAD.
‚Why Dance Matters‘ is the RAD’s podcast featuring inspiring conversations with extraordinary people from the world of dance and beyond. Hosted by David Jays, editor of Dance Gazette, it explores how dance shapes lives and why it matters to us all. Previous editions have featured such luminaries as Sir Matthew Bourne, Dame Darcey Bussell, Sir Wayne McGregor, Tiler Peck, and Benjamin Zephaniah.
Our mission is to inspire the world to dance, and we hope these insightful personal conversations will entertain, educate, and even surprise you. The podcast is available on most platforms. Click below on your preferred one and choose from our large catalogue of back episodes.
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Sir Matthew Bourne

Matthew Bourne is firmly established as the UK’s most popular and successful choreographer and director. He is the creator of the world’s longest-running ballet production, a record-breaking nine-time Olivier Award winner, and the only British director to have won the Tony Award for both Best Choreographer and Best Director of a Musical.
His company, New Adventures, performs Matthew’s signature works, including Nutcracker!, Swan Lake, The Car Man, Edward Scissorhands and Romeo and Juliet. He is also an award-winning West End and Broadway choreographer. He has been recognised by over 50 international awards, and was knighted in 2016. In the same year, he was awarded the RAD’s Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Award in recognition of his outstanding services to dance.
In this episode, Sir Matthew Bourne talks about why dance matters and digs deep into his award-winning interpretation of Swan Lake, which tours from 2024-25 as part of its 30th anniversary.
Sir Wayne McGregor

Wayne McGregor, one of the world’s leading choreographers, is an ideas man who makes abstract thought into thrillingly visceral dance. His collaborations are prodigious – from his own contemporary dancers to the world’s great ballet companies, and in film, fashion and more. He discusses his latest premiere for the Royal Ballet, his programme for the Venice Biennale and his game changing collaboration with ABBA. So many things matter to him – but why dance in particular?
Wayne McGregor CBE is a multi award-winning British choreographer and director, internationally renowned for trailblazing innovations in performance that have radically redefined dance. Driven by an insatiable curiosity about movement and its creative potentials, his experiments have involved collaborative dialogue with an array of artistic forms, scientific disciplines and technological interventions, producing works that have placed him at the cutting edge of contemporary arts for over 25 years. His work has earned a multitude of awards, and in 2021 he received a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Prix de Lausanne.
Christopher Scott

Our first guest of 2026 is the choreographer of the Wicked movies: the defying gravity force field that is Christopher Scott. In two phenomenal films, based on the hit stage musical, Christopher brings the land of Oz to stomping, whirling life, continuing his collaboration with director John M Chu (including In the Heights and the web series Legion of Extraordinary Dancers). How does Christopher, who began as a street dancer, work with stars like Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande? And there is no Oscar for choreography – how does this passionate advocate for dance feel about that?
Christopher Scott graduated from the Hollywood High Performing Arts Magnet Program, and began his choreography career in the Step Up dance films. He became associate producer and choreographer of The LXD: The Legion of Extraordinary Dancers. From 2010-16, he was a resident choreographer on So You Think You Can Dance, receiving three Emmy nominations. He has directed for stage and screen and has worked with artists such as Miley Cyrus and Gloria Estefan. In 2019, for director Jon M Chu, he choreographed the film of Lin-Manuel Miranda’s In The Heights, followed by Wicked and Wicked: For Good.
Fabian Aloise

We go inside a London theatre phenomenon with Fabian Aloise, the choreographer whose latest show has made headlines around the world. Every night, Rachel Zegler, playing Evita in Andrew Lloyd Webber’s musical, comes out onto the balcony at the London Palladium and sings Don’t Cry for Me Argentina to an excited crowd: a unique moment of London magic. Fabian works with director Jamie Lloyd on starry, groundbreaking productions: before Evita, they worked with Hayley Atwell and Tom Hiddleston on Much Ado About Nothing and Nicole Scherzinger on the award-winning Sunset Blvd. Fabian’s work is muscly, characterful, properly theatrical. How does he do it?
Fabian Aloise’s choreography has been critically acclaimed and garnered, among others, two Olivier Award nominations for best theatre choreographer, WhatsOnStage Award for best choreography, Stage Debut Award for best creative West End debut and the Off West End “OFFIE” award. Born in Canada to proud immigrant parents, Fabian trained in classical ballet and contemporary dance at the Victorian College of the Arts in Australia. His career spans Australia, Europe, the United States, Asia and London’s West End. His choreography can currently be seen in Evita (London Palladium) for the Jamie Lloyd Company.
Misty Copeland

Nine years ago this month, Misty Copeland became the first ever Black American woman to be promoted to principal at American Ballet Theatre. One of ballet’s most inspirational figures, she opens this new season of Why Dance Matters. Was she prepared for the attention around her promotion? What can ballet give young people? How does George Michael’s I Want Your Sex figure in her dance career, and will she return to the stage after ‘one of the longest maternity leaves in ballet history’? Misty reflects on her extraordinary journey – and why dance matters to her.
Misty Copeland is acclaimed as a champion of change. Born in Kansas City and raised in California, she began her ballet studies at the late age of 13. A member of American Ballet Theatre since 2001, in 2015, she was the first African American woman in the company’s history to be promoted to principal dancer, having made history as the first Black woman to perform the lead role in its Swan Lake. In 2022, Misty launched The Misty Copeland Foundation, with its signature program BEBOLD, which aims to bring greater diversity, equity and inclusion to dance, especially ballet.
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